{"id":16358,"date":"2026-04-10T11:05:55","date_gmt":"2026-04-10T09:05:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/de\/post\/ac16bb\/automatisch-gespeicherter-entwurf\/"},"modified":"2026-04-10T22:44:01","modified_gmt":"2026-04-10T20:44:01","slug":"","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/post\/ac16bb\/bruno-groeinig-und-der-heilige-geist-und-die-voyager-buecher\/","title":{"rendered":"Bruno Gr\u00f6ning and the Holy Spirit and the Voyager Books","raw":"Bruno Gr\u00f6ning and the Holy Spirit and the Voyager Books"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>So against the statement: There is much that cannot be explained, but nothing that cannot happen, I would like to partially object. One can explain more than is generally assumed, or at least I can. And although I have been telling these things repeatedly for years, this will be the first time I establish a connection with Bruno Gr\u00f6ning. The idea was brought to me by the Okitalk broadcast from April 7, 2026, because the energy I felt in the music is also known to me from my time in the Charismatic Renewal; there we called it the Holy Spirit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In fact, it is not surprising if one knows a little about theology; one can indeed know that the Holy Spirit, in the Father&#8217;s thought, was not a person but an energy, a socket, if you will, as was also said in the video. Basil of Caesarea writes pages in his very unknown book Contra Eunomium about the energies of God, but never about a person of the Spirit. The book has since been published in English under the authorship of Gregory of Nyssa. This healing power that Gr\u00f6ning speaks of is therefore nothing other than the Holy Spirit. In the Orthodox Church, there is still a teaching of divine energies today, known there as Palamism. I have already told this story quite well in my <a href=\"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/de\/post\/ed56b3\/aschermittwoch-und-beginn-des-ramadan-am-selben-tag-update-24-feber\/\">fasting article<\/a>. There is also quite a bit more that fits this topic here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The video also asked where this energy comes from; the answer was from God. Well, the Holy Spirit is said to even be God, but it is also claimed that He is a person. So when it comes to God, my knowledge also comes to an end. It could be that the Holy Spirit is the only form of God that exists at all. Does He then have a consciousness of His own? If this life force is all that exists, then it would be logical to assume that it also possesses a consciousness for itself. Or there is a source that emits this power, that which we call God or the Source. Then we are all children of God insofar as we are living beings, for without this Spirit, there would probably be no life in the universe. Even if all the conceptions that we know of God on Earth have turned out to be false or distorted until now. What I can say about this power, this Spirit, is that it comes from outside the universe; here my highly esteemed Voyager books come into play, with which I have been working here for years. I have them in German; titled The History of Intergalactic Travelers, it describes how every 25,900 years, a planetary convergence is created in a special star constellation that produces something like a passage out of the universe. Through this tunnel, new energy enters the universe every 25,900-year cycle, supplying the universe with the power to live for another 25,900 years. It reminds me a bit of a blood circulation with an extremely slow pulse. Personally, I believe that what is shifted every 25,900 years and last happened in the famous year 2012 is nothing other than the so-called dark matter, but those are my own considerations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This idea is supported by the story of <a href=\"https:\/\/odysee.com\/@jesaia714:d\/Linda-Moltown-How-about-Jerry-Wills-and-Arama-Muru-wie-alre-living-in-a-Labratory-:0\">Jerry Wills<\/a>, who tells that he hummed his three tones at Lake Titicaca, which he learned from a shaman, and then fell out of the universe and ended up in a kind of laboratory. A speaker questioned him about who he is and where he comes from. He is Jerry Wills and comes from Arama Muru in Peru. During the conversation, he learns that these people created our universe as a model because they themselves are in a laboratory from another universe. However, their model has become self-sufficient, evolved, and produced life. &#8230; I have uploaded the lecture version of Linda Molton How about the Wills story on Odysee. If you combine this story with dark matter, then you know why I have the thought that this energy or this healing power in Gr\u00f6ning gives us life. It was a model, thus without life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But if we include Indian traditions, then we have an Akasha Chronicle in Hinduism that stores everything that has ever happened and what will still happen. This storage in the universe could also be called a memory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All these things suggest that the healing power that Gr\u00f6ning speaks of is naturally intended for us. Therefore, I find the circle of friends quite sympathetic, even if I do not know the people personally. But they seem to understand that we are addressing a fundamental force in the universe with this healing power that does everything to preserve life. Perhaps I can inspire the Gr\u00f6ning fans a little for research with these lines, because there is indeed quite a bit that can be explained. Those interested in this research, I refer again to the fasting article (see link above); I did not want to write everything twice, as the aura of a person also plays a role in this.<\/p>\n","protected":false,"raw":"<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>So against the statement: There is much that cannot be explained, but nothing that cannot happen, I would like to partially object. One can explain more than is generally assumed, or at least I can. And although I have been telling these things repeatedly for years, this will be the first time I establish a connection with Bruno Gr\u00f6ning. The idea was brought to me by the Okitalk broadcast from April 7, 2026, because the energy I felt in the music is also known to me from my time in the Charismatic Renewal; there we called it the Holy Spirit.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>In fact, it is not surprising if one knows a little about theology; one can indeed know that the Holy Spirit, in the Father's thought, was not a person but an energy, a socket, if you will, as was also said in the video. Basil of Caesarea writes pages in his very unknown book Contra Eunomium about the energies of God, but never about a person of the Spirit. The book has since been published in English under the authorship of Gregory of Nyssa. This healing power that Gr\u00f6ning speaks of is therefore nothing other than the Holy Spirit. In the Orthodox Church, there is still a teaching of divine energies today, known there as Palamism. I have already told this story quite well in my <a href=\"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/de\/post\/ed56b3\/aschermittwoch-und-beginn-des-ramadan-am-selben-tag-update-24-feber\/\">fasting article<\/a>. There is also quite a bit more that fits this topic here.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>The video also asked where this energy comes from; the answer was from God. Well, the Holy Spirit is said to even be God, but it is also claimed that He is a person. So when it comes to God, my knowledge also comes to an end. It could be that the Holy Spirit is the only form of God that exists at all. Does He then have a consciousness of His own? If this life force is all that exists, then it would be logical to assume that it also possesses a consciousness for itself. Or there is a source that emits this power, that which we call God or the Source. Then we are all children of God insofar as we are living beings, for without this Spirit, there would probably be no life in the universe. Even if all the conceptions that we know of God on Earth have turned out to be false or distorted until now. What I can say about this power, this Spirit, is that it comes from outside the universe; here my highly esteemed Voyager books come into play, with which I have been working here for years. I have them in German; titled The History of Intergalactic Travelers, it describes how every 25,900 years, a planetary convergence is created in a special star constellation that produces something like a passage out of the universe. Through this tunnel, new energy enters the universe every 25,900-year cycle, supplying the universe with the power to live for another 25,900 years. It reminds me a bit of a blood circulation with an extremely slow pulse. Personally, I believe that what is shifted every 25,900 years and last happened in the famous year 2012 is nothing other than the so-called dark matter, but those are my own considerations.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This idea is supported by the story of <a href=\"https:\/\/odysee.com\/@jesaia714:d\/Linda-Moltown-How-about-Jerry-Wills-and-Arama-Muru-wie-alre-living-in-a-Labratory-:0\">Jerry Wills<\/a>, who tells that he hummed his three tones at Lake Titicaca, which he learned from a shaman, and then fell out of the universe and ended up in a kind of laboratory. A speaker questioned him about who he is and where he comes from. He is Jerry Wills and comes from Arama Muru in Peru. During the conversation, he learns that these people created our universe as a model because they themselves are in a laboratory from another universe. However, their model has become self-sufficient, evolved, and produced life. ... I have uploaded the lecture version of Linda Molton How about the Wills story on Odysee. If you combine this story with dark matter, then you know why I have the thought that this energy or this healing power in Gr\u00f6ning gives us life. It was a model, thus without life.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if we include Indian traditions, then we have an Akasha Chronicle in Hinduism that stores everything that has ever happened and what will still happen. This storage in the universe could also be called a memory.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>All these things suggest that the healing power that Gr\u00f6ning speaks of is naturally intended for us. Therefore, I find the circle of friends quite sympathetic, even if I do not know the people personally. But they seem to understand that we are addressing a fundamental force in the universe with this healing power that does everything to preserve life. Perhaps I can inspire the Gr\u00f6ning fans a little for research with these lines, because there is indeed quite a bit that can be explained. Those interested in this research, I refer again to the fasting article (see link above); I did not want to write everything twice, as the aura of a person also plays a role in this.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->"},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false,"raw":""},"author":73,"featured_media":16393,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_en_post_content":"<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>So against the statement: There is much that cannot be explained, but nothing that cannot happen, I would like to partially object. One can explain more than is generally assumed, or at least I can. And although I have been telling these things repeatedly for years, this will be the first time I establish a connection with Bruno Gr\u00f6ning. The idea was brought to me by the Okitalk broadcast from April 7, 2026, because the energy I felt in the music is also known to me from my time in the Charismatic Renewal; there we called it the Holy Spirit.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>In fact, it is not surprising if one knows a little about theology; one can indeed know that the Holy Spirit, in the Father's thought, was not a person but an energy, a socket, if you will, as was also said in the video. Basil of Caesarea writes pages in his very unknown book Contra Eunomium about the energies of God, but never about a person of the Spirit. The book has since been published in English under the authorship of Gregory of Nyssa. This healing power that Gr\u00f6ning speaks of is therefore nothing other than the Holy Spirit. In the Orthodox Church, there is still a teaching of divine energies today, known there as Palamism. I have already told this story quite well in my <a href=\"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/de\/post\/ed56b3\/aschermittwoch-und-beginn-des-ramadan-am-selben-tag-update-24-feber\/\">fasting article<\/a>. There is also quite a bit more that fits this topic here.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>The video also asked where this energy comes from; the answer was from God. Well, the Holy Spirit is said to even be God, but it is also claimed that He is a person. So when it comes to God, my knowledge also comes to an end. It could be that the Holy Spirit is the only form of God that exists at all. Does He then have a consciousness of His own? If this life force is all that exists, then it would be logical to assume that it also possesses a consciousness for itself. Or there is a source that emits this power, that which we call God or the Source. Then we are all children of God insofar as we are living beings, for without this Spirit, there would probably be no life in the universe. Even if all the conceptions that we know of God on Earth have turned out to be false or distorted until now. What I can say about this power, this Spirit, is that it comes from outside the universe; here my highly esteemed Voyager books come into play, with which I have been working here for years. I have them in German; titled The History of Intergalactic Travelers, it describes how every 25,900 years, a planetary convergence is created in a special star constellation that produces something like a passage out of the universe. Through this tunnel, new energy enters the universe every 25,900-year cycle, supplying the universe with the power to live for another 25,900 years. It reminds me a bit of a blood circulation with an extremely slow pulse. Personally, I believe that what is shifted every 25,900 years and last happened in the famous year 2012 is nothing other than the so-called dark matter, but those are my own considerations.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This idea is supported by the story of <a href=\"https:\/\/odysee.com\/@jesaia714:d\/Linda-Moltown-How-about-Jerry-Wills-and-Arama-Muru-wie-alre-living-in-a-Labratory-:0\">Jerry Wills<\/a>, who tells that he hummed his three tones at Lake Titicaca, which he learned from a shaman, and then fell out of the universe and ended up in a kind of laboratory. A speaker questioned him about who he is and where he comes from. He is Jerry Wills and comes from Arama Muru in Peru. During the conversation, he learns that these people created our universe as a model because they themselves are in a laboratory from another universe. However, their model has become self-sufficient, evolved, and produced life. ... I have uploaded the lecture version of Linda Molton How about the Wills story on Odysee. If you combine this story with dark matter, then you know why I have the thought that this energy or this healing power in Gr\u00f6ning gives us life. It was a model, thus without life.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if we include Indian traditions, then we have an Akasha Chronicle in Hinduism that stores everything that has ever happened and what will still happen. This storage in the universe could also be called a memory.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>All these things suggest that the healing power that Gr\u00f6ning speaks of is naturally intended for us. Therefore, I find the circle of friends quite sympathetic, even if I do not know the people personally. But they seem to understand that we are addressing a fundamental force in the universe with this healing power that does everything to preserve life. Perhaps I can inspire the Gr\u00f6ning fans a little for research with these lines, because there is indeed quite a bit that can be explained. Those interested in this research, I refer again to the fasting article (see link above); I did not want to write everything twice, as the aura of a person also plays a role in this.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->","_en_post_name":"","_en_post_excerpt":"","_en_post_title":"Bruno Gr\u00f6ning and the Holy Spirit and the Voyager Books","_de_post_content":"<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Also gegen den Satz : Es gibt vieles was nicht erkl\u00e4rt werden, aber nichts das nicht geschehen kann m\u00f6chte ich Teilweise Einspruch erheben. Man kann mehr erkl\u00e4ren als gemeinhin angenommen wird . oder mindestens ich kann das. Und obwohl ich diese Dinge seit Jahren immer wieder erz\u00e4hle wird das hier das erste mal sein das ich einen Zusammenhang mit Brunno Gr\u00f6ning herstelle. Auf die Idee gebracht hat mich die Okitalk Sendung vom 7 April. 2026 denn die Energie die ich bei der Musik gesp\u00fcrt habe die kenne ich auch meiner Zeit in der Charismatischen Erneuerung nur dort haben wir es heiligen Geist genannt.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Tats\u00e4chlich ist das nicht verwunderlich wenn man sich in der Theologie ein wenig auskennt dann kann man durchaus wissen das der heilige Geist beim Vater des Gedankens gar keine Person war sondern eine Energie Eine Steckdose wenn man so will wie das auch im Video gesagt wurde. Basillius von C\u00e4sarea schreibt in seinem sehr unbekannten Buch contra Eunomius seitenweise \u00fcber die Energien Gottes aber niemals \u00fcber eine Person des Geistes. Das Buch ist inzwischen auf Englisch unter der Autorenschaft von Gregor von Nyssa erschienen.. Diese Heilkraft von der Gr\u00f6inig spricht ist also nichts anderes als der heilige Geist. In der orthodoxen Kirche gibts bis heute eine Lehre der g\u00f6ttlichen Energien die ist dort als Palamismus bekannt. Die Geschichte hab ich in meinem <a href=\"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/de\/post\/ed56b3\/aschermittwoch-und-beginn-des-ramadan-am-selben-tag-update-24-feber\/\">Fasten Artikel <\/a>schon ganz gut erz\u00e4hlt. Dort steht auch noch so einiges andere was zu diesem Thema hier passt<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Im Video wurde noch gefragt wo kommt diese Energie her die Antwort war  von Gott. Nun ja der heilige Geist sagt man ja ist sogar Gott aber von dem wird auch behauptet das er eine Person ist. Also wenns um Gott geht kommt auch mein Wissen an ein Ende, Es k\u00f6nnte sein das der heilige Geist die einzige Form von Gott ist die es \u00fcberhaupt gibt Ob der dann wohl ein eigenes Bewusstsein hat? Wenn diese Lebenskraft alles ist was es gibt dann w\u00e4re es logisch an zu nehmen das sie auch ein Bewusstsein f\u00fcr sich besitzt. Oder es gibt einen Ursprung der diese Kraft aussendet also das was wir Gott oder die Quelle nennen Dann sind wir alle Kinder Gottes insofern wir lebendige Wesen sind den ohne diesen Geist g\u00e4be es wohl kein Leben im Universums Denn auch wenn sich bis jetzt alle Konzeptionen die wird auf der Erde von Gott kennen als falsch oder verf\u00e4lscht herausgestellt haben. Was ich von dieser Kraft diesem Geist sagen kann ist das sie von au\u00dferhalb des Universums kommt hier kommen meine sehr gesch\u00e4tzten Voyager B\u00fccher ins Spiel mit denen ich sein Jahren hier arbeite. Ich hab sie auf Deutsch ; Die Geschichte der intergalaktisch Reisenden genannt, dort wird alle 25.900 in einer besonderen Sternenkonstellation eine Planetenkonvergenz geschaffen die so etwas wie einen Gang aus dem Universum hinaus erzeugt. Durch diesen Tunnel dringt bei jedem 25.900 Jahr Zyklus neue Energie ins Universum ein, die das Universum f\u00fcr weiter 25.900 Jahre mit der Kraft zu Leben versorgt. Es erinnert mich ein wenig an einen Blutkreislauf mit extrem langsamen Puls. Ich pers\u00f6nlich glaube ja das das was da alle 25.900 verschoben wird und zuletzt im ber\u00fchmten Jahr 2012 passiert ist, nichts anderes ist als die sogenannte dunkle Materie aber das sind meine eigenen \u00dcberlegungen.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>diese Idee wird unterst\u00fctzt durch die Geschichte von <a href=\"https:\/\/odysee.com\/@jesaia714:d\/Linda-Moltown-How-about-Jerry-Wills-and-Arama-Muru-wie-alre-living-in-a-Labratory-:0\">Jerry Wills <\/a> der ja erz\u00e4hlt das er am Titikaka See seine drei t\u00f6ne gesummt hat die er von einem Schamen gelernt hat und dann ist er aus dem Universum rausgefallen und in einer Art Labor gelandet. Ein Lautsprecher hat ihn Ausgefragt wer er ist und woher er kommt Er ist Jerry Wills und kommt von Arama Muru in Peru. Im laufe des Gespr\u00e4chs erf\u00e4hrt er das diese Leute unser Universum als Modell erschaffen haben weil sie selbst in einem Labor sind von einem anderen Universum. Doch ihr Modell hat sich selbstst\u00e4ndig gemacht weiterentwickelt und Leben hervorgebracht. ....Ich hab die Vortragsversion von Linda Molton How \u00fcber die Wills Geschichte auf Odysee geladen Wenn ihr diese Geschichte kombiniert mit mit der Dunklen Materie na dann wisst ihr warum ich den Gedanken habe das diese Energie oder diese Heilkraft bei Gr\u00f6ning uns das Leben spendet. Das war ein Modell also ohne Leben.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Aber wenn wir die indischen Traditionen mit einbeziehen dann haben wir eine Akasha Chronik im Hinduismus die alles speichert was je passiert ist und was noch passieren wird. Diesen Speicher im Universum k\u00f6nnte man auch als Ged\u00e4chtnis bezeichnen. <\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>All diese Dinge legen Nahe das die Heilkraft von der Gr\u00f6ning spricht uns von Natur aus Zugedacht ist, Darum ist mir der Freundeskreis auch recht sympathisch auch wenn ich die Leute nicht pers\u00f6nlich kenne. aber sie scheinen zu verstehen das wir mit dieser Heilkraft eine Grundkraft im Universum ansprechen die alles daran setzt leben zu erhalten. Vielleicht kann ich mit diesen Zeilen die Gr\u00f6ning Fans ein wenig f\u00fcr die Forschung begeistern denn es gibt doch einiges was man erkl\u00e4ren kann, Wer sich f\u00fcr diese Forschung interessiert den verweise ich noch mal auf den Fasten Artikel ( siehe Link oben ) ich wollte nicht alles doppelt schreiben den die Aura des Menschen spielt da zum Beispiel auch noch  eine Rolle. <\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->","_de_post_name":"bruno-groeinig-und-der-heilige-geist-und-die-voyager-buecher","_de_post_excerpt":"","_de_post_title":"Bruno Gr\u00f6inig und der heilige Geist und die Voyager B\u00fccher","_es_post_content":"<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>As\u00ed que en contra de la frase: Hay muchas cosas que no se pueden explicar, pero nada que no pueda suceder, quiero presentar parcialmente una objeci\u00f3n. Se puede explicar m\u00e1s de lo que com\u00fanmente se asume, o al menos yo puedo hacerlo. Y aunque he estado contando estas cosas una y otra vez durante a\u00f1os, esta ser\u00e1 la primera vez que establezca una conexi\u00f3n con Bruno Gr\u00f6ning. La idea me la dio el programa de Okitalk del 7 de abril de 2026, porque la energ\u00eda que sent\u00ed con la m\u00fasica tambi\u00e9n la conozco de mi tiempo en la Renovaci\u00f3n Carism\u00e1tica, solo que all\u00ed la llamamos Esp\u00edritu Santo.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>De hecho, no es sorprendente si uno tiene un poco de conocimiento en teolog\u00eda, puede saber que el Esp\u00edritu Santo, en el pensamiento del Padre, no era una persona, sino una energ\u00eda, una toma de corriente, por as\u00ed decirlo, como se mencion\u00f3 en el video. Basilio de Cesarea escribe en su libro muy poco conocido \"Contra Eunomius\" p\u00e1ginas y p\u00e1ginas sobre las energ\u00edas de Dios, pero nunca sobre una persona del Esp\u00edritu. El libro ha sido publicado en ingl\u00e9s bajo la autor\u00eda de Gregorio de Nisa. As\u00ed que esta fuerza curativa de la que habla Gr\u00f6ning no es otra cosa que el Esp\u00edritu Santo. En la Iglesia ortodoxa, hasta hoy existe una ense\u00f1anza de las energ\u00edas divinas, conocida all\u00ed como Palamismo. Ya he contado bastante bien esta historia en mi <a href=\"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/de\/post\/ed56b3\/aschermittwoch-und-beginn-des-ramadan-am-selben-tag-update-24-feber\/\">art\u00edculo de ayuno<\/a>. All\u00ed tambi\u00e9n hay otras cosas que son relevantes para este tema aqu\u00ed.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>En el video tambi\u00e9n se pregunt\u00f3 de d\u00f3nde proviene esta energ\u00eda, y la respuesta fue de Dios. Bueno, se dice que el Esp\u00edritu Santo es incluso Dios, pero tambi\u00e9n se afirma que es una persona. As\u00ed que cuando se trata de Dios, mi conocimiento tambi\u00e9n llega a su fin. Podr\u00eda ser que el Esp\u00edritu Santo sea la \u00fanica forma de Dios que realmente existe. \u00bfPodr\u00eda tener una conciencia propia? Si esta fuerza vital es todo lo que hay, entonces ser\u00eda l\u00f3gico suponer que tambi\u00e9n posee una conciencia de s\u00ed misma. O hay un origen que emite esta fuerza, es decir, lo que llamamos Dios o la Fuente. Entonces, todos somos hijos de Dios en la medida en que somos seres vivos, porque sin este Esp\u00edritu probablemente no habr\u00eda vida en el universo. Porque aunque hasta ahora todas las concepciones que conocemos en la Tierra sobre Dios han resultado ser incorrectas o distorsionadas. Lo que puedo decir de esta fuerza, de este Esp\u00edritu, es que proviene de fuera del universo; aqu\u00ed entran en juego mis muy apreciados libros de Voyager con los que he estado trabajando aqu\u00ed durante a\u00f1os. Los tengo en alem\u00e1n; se llaman \"La historia de los viajeros intergal\u00e1cticos\", donde se dice que cada 25,900 a\u00f1os se crea una convergencia planetaria en una constelaci\u00f3n estelar especial que genera algo as\u00ed como un pasaje fuera del universo. A trav\u00e9s de este t\u00fanel, cada ciclo de 25,900 a\u00f1os, nueva energ\u00eda entra en el universo, que proporciona al universo la fuerza para vivir durante otros 25,900 a\u00f1os. Me recuerda un poco a un sistema circulatorio con un pulso extremadamente lento. Personalmente, creo que lo que se desplaza cada 25,900 a\u00f1os y que finalmente ocurri\u00f3 en el famoso a\u00f1o 2012 no es otra cosa que la llamada materia oscura, pero esas son mis propias reflexiones.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Esta idea es apoyada por la historia de <a href=\"https:\/\/odysee.com\/@jesaia714:d\/Linda-Moltown-How-about-Jerry-Wills-and-Arama-Muru-wie-alre-living-in-a-Labratory-:0\">Jerry Wills<\/a>, quien cuenta que en el lago Titicaca ha zumbado sus tres tonos que aprendi\u00f3 de un cham\u00e1n y luego cay\u00f3 fuera del universo y aterriz\u00f3 en una especie de laboratorio. Un altavoz le pregunt\u00f3 qui\u00e9n es y de d\u00f3nde viene. \u00c9l es Jerry Wills y viene de Arama Muru en Per\u00fa. A lo largo de la conversaci\u00f3n, descubre que estas personas han creado nuestro universo como un modelo porque ellos mismos est\u00e1n en un laboratorio de otro universo. Sin embargo, su modelo se ha vuelto aut\u00f3nomo, ha evolucionado y ha dado vida. ... He subido la versi\u00f3n de la conferencia de Linda Molton How sobre la historia de Wills a Odysee. Si combinan esta historia con la materia oscura, entonces saben por qu\u00e9 tengo la idea de que esta energ\u00eda o esta fuerza curativa en Gr\u00f6ning nos da vida. Eso era un modelo, es decir, sin vida.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Pero si incluimos las tradiciones indias, entonces tenemos una cr\u00f3nica ak\u00e1shica en el hinduismo que almacena todo lo que ha sucedido y lo que suceder\u00e1. Este almacenamiento en el universo tambi\u00e9n podr\u00eda ser llamado memoria.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Todo esto sugiere que la fuerza curativa de la que habla Gr\u00f6ning nos est\u00e1 destinada por naturaleza. Por eso me resulta bastante simp\u00e1tico el c\u00edrculo de amigos, aunque no conozco a las personas personalmente. Pero parecen entender que con esta fuerza curativa estamos apelando a una fuerza fundamental en el universo que se esfuerza por mantener la vida. Quiz\u00e1s con estas l\u00edneas pueda entusiasmar un poco a los fans de Gr\u00f6ning por la investigaci\u00f3n, porque hay bastante que se puede explicar. Quien est\u00e9 interesado en esta investigaci\u00f3n, le remito nuevamente al art\u00edculo de ayuno (ver enlace arriba); no quer\u00eda repetir todo, ya que el aura del ser humano tambi\u00e9n juega un papel aqu\u00ed.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->","_es_post_name":"","_es_post_excerpt":"","_es_post_title":"Bruno Gr\u00f6ning y el esp\u00edritu santo y los libros de Voyager","edit_language":"en","iawp_total_views":85,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1997],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16358","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-menschen"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16358","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/73"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16358"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16358\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16375,"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16358\/revisions\/16375"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/16393"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16358"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16358"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/okitalk.news\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16358"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}